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itself because concepts like true

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consciousness remote viewing free energy

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devices or anti-gravity crafts will

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confront this realization that many of

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its models are fundamentally flawed and

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it's actually the ideas that have been

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initiatory orders and Eastern religions

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that need to be shuffled out onto the

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main stage but until that day will

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continue to tell the tales around our

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digital campfire with those who have

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seen the light and better yet actually

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understand it well one of those bright

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minds in these troubled times is today's

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guest Ernst will hem Vandenberg who has

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been tinkering with the world from an

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early age born in 1964 in Amsterdam he

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his teens and built his first computer

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when he was just 18 he went off to

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university to study computer science and

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physics and worked in IT until 2005 then

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he moved to Thailand and while looking

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for a new hobby decided to take a deep

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dive into the work of Nikola Tesla and

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it's really been off to the races ever

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now he's collected nearly all of Tesla's

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works and writings that aren't sealed

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away in classified files has been

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replicating Tesla's experiments and has

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written four books along the way with

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titles like Tesla's magnifying

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transmitter recreating Tesla's dream the

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problem of increasing human energy the

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Tesla Code the Battle of Wardenclyffe

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historian Letters and his most recent

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release the topic of the day the science

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of Tesla's magic I think it's gonna be a

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great time so let's do it coming to us

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from the remote rice fields of Thailand

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far away from civilization the Tesla

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decoder the ether educator and the

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electrical experimenter extraordinaire

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welcome to the higher side thank you of

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what is up but this is quite an info

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thank you all for having me well I

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really appreciate this I know it's not

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the easiest thing to do where you are

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and of course I have to thank Aron

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Murakami again for getting us in touch

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I saw your latest book and just had to

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see if we could make it happen and here

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to kick this off I figured you could

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tell us about this period of time when

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you found Tesla's work because you say

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in the book that you are really working

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towards artificial intelligence and in a

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strange way your AI programs guided you

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to Tesla and that alone is intriguing

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but what can you tell us about this

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period of time where your focus really

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alright so I just moved to Thailand and

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technology behind so I was looking for a

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way to make some money now I've done so

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before playing the stock market so I

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thought I could use my knowledge of

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artificial intelligence to create

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something to analyze the stock market

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and help me interest my money so while I

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work pretty well and every time it

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started looking into that point what

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happened at that point and I saw that

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there were large gold transactions

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transactions so since no one has the

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money to play with tens of billions

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worth of coal I started looking into the

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cold market and I found that the role

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that JP Morgan played there so I started

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investing JP Morgan and I found work

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and that immediately got my attention

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because yeah who is going to build such

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a huge Tower and what was the purpose of

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all that so then I read about Nikola

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Tesla and I knew him because I've heard

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of the slack both poor but not much more

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and then I saw that he did quite a lot

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more than just build Tesla coils so I

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want to know more about that and I

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started reading perfect I think that's

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awesome and you go on to say that it

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took you 20 years to arrive at the

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conclusion that the goal you are working

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towards is unattainable and you have

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since found several others who have

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provided additional evidence that this

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was indeed the case - is the goal of

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artificial intelligence or conscious

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computers what you're talking about here

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yes Michael artificial consciousness

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really I wanted to understand the

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universe and I realized that since we

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are part of it we may not be able to

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really investigate it every secret so

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you need a tool to help us and I thought

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artificial intelligence would be that

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tool that could help us but it needed to

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start thinking on its own so it must

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have an artificial consciousness as well

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not just the reasoning

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so my interest was in creating an

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artificial consciousness and I started

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researching that a data over a period of

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many now many to three decades and then

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found it it cannot be done hmm because

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any consciousness that comes into

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creation creates as a necessity of its

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being its existent it creates the

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universe that it sees itself living in

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so if one word creates an artificial

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conscious program then that program

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would create its own universe and report

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about that universe not about power

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universe so there's no point in doing

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that with the purpose that I had hmm yes

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for any consciousness to exist it must

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create its own reality and I guess I

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would ask for people who hear that why

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is that how do we know that to be true

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this is very it took me decades to come

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to that conclusion but I think working

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backwards is the easiest way to

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understand it so assume that you already

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have a computer program that is

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conscious then it must be self conscious

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first because it has to know that it

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exists before it can think that it

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perceive itself in some form but a

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running program doesn't have any form

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a sequence of states in a computer it

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doesn't have any physical reality to it

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will see this sequence of states this

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process as a physical entity so it sees

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thus it can see other processes in this

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computer also as physical things so it

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will see everything that's running in

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the computer every program as a physical

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object they are by creating its own

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human code which is not our universe

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it's something completely different

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that for some of these more complex or

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abstract things it is typically best to

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work backwards one of my favorite Carl

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Sagan quotes is if you wish to make an

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apple pie from scratch you must first

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invent the universe which is just a

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great way of expressing that need to get

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more fundamental to understand the

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things that are built on its

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foundational principles yeah and that is

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how you start the book by talking about

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the elements and a better way to

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understand reality than this idea of a

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random Big Bang and now we're floating

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on this rock and space you basically

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it is complicated how would you go about

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explaining this foundation to people

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if it's through our consciousness our

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being our existence exists in four

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levels we have a physical body we have

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our thoughts things that we can't

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visualize things that we can think and

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we have emotions things we feel but we

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cannot picture them and then there's

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some driving force that leads us that

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forms our emotions into thoughts and a

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physical occurrence so that also

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explains how your thoughts and make you

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ill or and cure you because those those

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things are all related so we're all

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and they're all related

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now for example we cannot know what

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happens when we die to our

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my who are thinking to our soul what you

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won't call it but we do know what

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understanding that these things are

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the body the physical world is a picture

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is an image of the mental world which is

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of the ultimate source the element of

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absorbed into everything that is is that

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think that we will live on that will

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live on in another person so that our

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soul will reincarnate in some other

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living entity whether it's in person or

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animal the deepest / religion but that

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would be in my opinion that would be

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highly inefficient because in your life

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build up many experiences and knowledge

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and all that will be gone when you die

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and then you go to a new body and you

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have to continue your life that is

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extremely inefficient and if you look at

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nature you see that everything is very

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efficient actually so that seems some

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disconnect here so what I think is or

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what happening is if whatever you were

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the case

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enters into new living entities but not

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in one piece but it's taken apart and

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the pieces will live on in other living

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instance hmm right because those

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experiences and that knowledge that you

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gained if it wasn't being utilized

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somewhere then it wouldn't be efficient

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yes hmm if you have to build up all your

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experience again in the next life Heidi

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increasing right right mmm and so when

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it comes to the formation of the

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universe you talk about it through the

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four elements as you kind of broke them

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down for us there as well as there being

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four corresponding levels to a human

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being it makes a lot more sense than the

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current model and it's really poetic and

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clear and I wish we kind of taught

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everyone about the universe this way

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earth is the physical water is the

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emotions air is the idea and fire is the

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source of everything as you send the

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book you can't really know it directly

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that only its effects and consciousness

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people have described it as a light you

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know some it's definitely in the the

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symbolism the language we use to talk

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about it it is kind of unknowable the

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soul is described as a light body but

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this is like the energy that we're kind

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of talking about that's driving what

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life is the F is represented in a force

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is why the other three elements are more

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material so you see this also in

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particle physics where you have for

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example the leptons they are classified

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in three generations the electron the

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muon and the Tau platform then when I

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learned this

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I immediately thought there must be a

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fourth

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being connected to these three and the

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sporting is not material it is course

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and later on you learn that there's a Z

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boson which is indeed a force that is

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connected to this level so you see that

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this division in for level four roots

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you see just repeated everywhere

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mm-hmm-hmm and would also really clicked

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for me is when you talk about the

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elements as male and female are having

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male and female correspondence and

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saying that new things emerge from the

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interactions between the male and female

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elements because we all know where

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babies come from so it all starts to

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make sense and you use this example of a

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drain and a bathtub and the forces that

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create that vortex that we see a male

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force that pushes inward the water and a

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female force that pushes outward the air

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and in the middle of the interactions

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between these male and female forces as

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you say matter or to be more precise

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elementary particles are born yes can

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you elaborate on that principle and

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place as we see it it just it does make

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so much sense but it are there other

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examples other than the vortex of a

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bathtub where we might see a male and

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female elemental force interacting to

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put one we seated okay okay so the earth

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is female then above it you see the air

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which is the mill representation and on

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where they need to meet that where light

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is created where we live where they're

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mostly at the pound where everything

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takes place where this male force meets

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the female force that's where life

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starts mmm yeah that's a great response

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I mean it's just so interesting and for

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people trying to follow along as to why

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earth and water are considered to be the

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female versus air and fire being the

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male from the perspective of the

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observer we just say you know you need a

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consciousness creates its universe so

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when it comes to earth material objects

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are formed outside of us so the

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direction assigned to it is inward or

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towards the object air thoughts are

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formed inside of us but we see them as

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projected outwards water those are the

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emotions we can't visualize them because

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they're formed inside and then projected

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further inward and fire we can only

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perceive its effects it's like someone

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or something standing behind us and

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moving things in front of us so it's all

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about the direction that these things

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are most associated with relative to the

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observer because again it all comes back

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to the conscious observer is the center

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so to speak of the universe yes exactly

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so the male force is always directed

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outward and the females always are at

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the teamwork that's how they are

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represented yes I just love that general

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perspective it's a very cohesive story

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it's it's holistic and it just kind of

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creates a paradigm that I think is a lot

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more coherent than this random explosion

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reality that we're given

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exactly uh also you can see the

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explosion universe the Big Bang Theory

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dating the creation must have happened

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in the distant past but they forget that

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the thing that creates our universe

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has to exist before our universe and our

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space and time existed so it cannot be

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part can not be subject to the time that

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we live in so it lives in a different

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time so it creates our time maybe in one

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moment of his time and then it beats

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everything at the same time so past

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present and future are all created at

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the same time for this favor hmm it's

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quite trippy and just to add another

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layer to it because this is important to

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the big picture you also note that

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besides just male and female we have

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older and newer manifestations of the

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elements and you right that force acts

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as the element fire and the fluid medium

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water through this interaction to new

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substances appear a solid made of ether

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vortexes and a gaseous medium consisting

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of electric particles this matches the

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young elements earth and air

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respectively and I just love that but

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it's interesting that we have two

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generations of elements and I guess

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that's important because a lot of people

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think of ether as just a electrical

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field of some sorts but this paradigm

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that you're describing is like no there

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must be two things interacting because

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that's just the way it goes and so you

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have you have an ether that's a fluid

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fluid yeah maybe you can explain it yeah

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yeah when Maxwell started to think about

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this thing he came up with an ether

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model a model for the ether that he used

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as the basis for his equations to arrive

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at this equation in this model he said

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there's a fluid ether we all know that

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fluid ether because at his time everyone

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assumed there was a fluid heater filling

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up all space and the must an Ian force

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that acts on this medium on this fluid

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medium and that creates vortices and

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some particle so creates two more

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particles to more entities so you first

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have the force and a fluid they work

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together to create a solid the vortex

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cells forming a solid and a gaseous

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medium consisting of the particles that

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move between these cortex cells so you

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see again a force acting on a fluid

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creating a solid and a gas so you have

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to hold elements first creating the

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younger element and at metros time

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people said here is beautiful model and

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the results that you come up with are

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perfect but at the same time most

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unlikely model for either possible while

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in my opinion it is a very very likely

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model to be true because it matches the

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fragment exactly right right and that

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elegance is kind of what you're looking

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for in a good model and this whole idea

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of birthing substances from the

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interaction between two other substances

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it just makes me curious about something

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this is quite extreme but something like

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bringing new universes or at least

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galaxies and nebulae into being if you

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could harness the right plasma fire seed

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and the right elemental water could you

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generate a nebula or something like that

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in some sort of container and grow it

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like you would a flower

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that's an interesting question I think

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there's the electrical universe is

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trying to do this exact thing in the

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Sapphire project they are modeling the

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Sun as an electrical unit and creating

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the plasma around it and see what

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they show they can create actual

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chemical elements that were not in the

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experiment before at a time so

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it shows in states of creation I think

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wow wow

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man I know you know Eric dollard's done

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a little experimentation in that realm I

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know you're familiar with him through

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the forums and through Aaron but it's a

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trippy idea but there seems to be a

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relationship between plasma and life I

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don't know what it is

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it's a very complex relationship because

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we have our consciousness creating the

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University for giving physical

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appearances to other processes as it

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were

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and some of these processes we see as

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other living beings are as we see as

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plasma or universes it's pretty

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complicated because everything connects

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together

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our consciousness creates this physical

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world that we see and it is in reality

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that these are just processes running

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somewhere and we are consciousness gives

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it a physical presence and some of these

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presence we see as living beings some we

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see as galaxies tomorrow we see as

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metals whatever were what you have what

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have you so everything connects together

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but everything is in fact just

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consciousness

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hmm so a lot of this is obviously

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related to the work of Tesla and you've

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done so much reading and studying of his

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primary writings to get back to him a

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little bit more in this book you write

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that Tesla was no Mad Men you need to

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see through the outlandish claims and

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understand his situation and his time

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well what context is important for

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people in this regard to really

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understanding the man how do we put him

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back in his proper context

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yes you have to go back to this time I

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said when you read it work now

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in our age then you see he writes about

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Peter and we don't believe in either you

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see Emma right about Athens and we think

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about atoms in a certain way we see a

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nucleus with electrons circling around

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it that is not what this loves all you

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have to realize all these things all

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this changed when Tesla talked about the

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ether having in it another medium that

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you could call electricity a gaseous

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medium that causes electrical effects

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and year to thing when he talks about

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electricity he talks about this meeting

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he does not talk about moving electrons

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and charges as we see them because when

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you at school learn about electricity

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you learn electricity is all about

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electrons well that is a very limited

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fuel because electron is the negative

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charge so whether the positive charge

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come from so there has to be something

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else that creates both positive charge

554
00:26:49,270 --> 00:26:47,299
and negative charge and that more

555
00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:49,280
fundamental thing that is what person I

556
00:26:55,210 --> 00:26:52,070
was talking about not electricity as we

557
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:55,220
see it today yes that makes sense I mean

558
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:57,410
the terms do you kind of change their

559
00:27:01,780 --> 00:26:58,850
meanings are different plus you have

560
00:27:04,810 --> 00:27:01,790
people throwing a lot of hyperbole on it

561
00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:04,820
yeah and in that you go on to say that

562
00:27:09,940 --> 00:27:07,220
people might need to understand the

563
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:09,950
message he was trying to convey what you

564
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:12,890
think his primary message to the world

565
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:17,550
I don't know what his primary message

566
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:19,930
was but I know what he wants to get the

567
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:22,450
world he wanted to give the world a way

568
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:24,490
to communicate all of the world which we

569
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:29,610
have today through the internet and also

570
00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:33,250
free energy he wanted to have everyone

571
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:37,870
access to energy in a easy way he

572
00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:40,090
designed all that and that's what he

573
00:27:46,530 --> 00:27:43,270
wanted to give to the world and then he

574
00:27:51,330 --> 00:27:46,540
saw this new science coming up from the

575
00:27:53,460 --> 00:27:51,340
words of Einstein and his group and that

576
00:27:57,940 --> 00:27:53,470
was trying to push a different paradigm

577
00:28:01,100 --> 00:27:57,950
and that would

578
00:28:04,060 --> 00:28:01,110
obscurus pubes so he was trying to fight

579
00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:04,070
the new paradigm

580
00:28:10,299 --> 00:28:06,590
while parts of that paradigm may still

581
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,309
be correct so for example he said there

582
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:12,240
are no

583
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:14,810
transfers weight transfers

584
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:17,730
electromagnetic waves while we know that

585
00:28:24,130 --> 00:28:20,810
there are we can prove that some

586
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:24,140
electromagnetic waves are transferred

587
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:26,910
but he insisted that I work on

588
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:29,820
longitudinal but why did he do so

589
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:31,500
because I was thinking and didn't point

590
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:33,900
he was thinking of his electricity is

591
00:28:39,290 --> 00:28:36,450
medium and in this medium he saw the

592
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:39,300
compressions and deep impressions and so

593
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:41,550
it's all from the children aware and he

594
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,980
wants to convey that to the world we

595
00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:45,840
have to look deeper we have to look at

596
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:49,200
her more from the mental picture in

597
00:28:55,090 --> 00:28:51,930
order to understand it and when you

598
00:28:59,289 --> 00:28:55,100
understand it you can use it

599
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,299
for this purposes yes and on the subject

600
00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:02,240
of looking deeper if we were to talk a

601
00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:04,460
little bit more about ether and this

602
00:29:10,029 --> 00:29:07,549
gaseous medium aka electricity just

603
00:29:11,950 --> 00:29:10,039
calling it that to simplify it's

604
00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:11,960
important because when we're trying to

605
00:29:15,940 --> 00:29:13,460
understand this stuff I think a lot of

606
00:29:18,879 --> 00:29:15,950
people just replace the phrase space is

607
00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:18,889
a vacuum with space is the ether and

608
00:29:22,659 --> 00:29:22,070
then their understanding sort of stops

609
00:29:25,149 --> 00:29:22,669
there

610
00:29:27,639 --> 00:29:25,159
but this male/female elemental

611
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,649
interaction is important because the

612
00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:30,559
whole thing is a lot more complex it

613
00:29:35,289 --> 00:29:32,840
isn't just an ether and I guess we

614
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:35,299
should think of the ether as particles

615
00:29:41,409 --> 00:29:38,620
that are a network of particles that are

616
00:29:44,889 --> 00:29:41,419
spinning in a sense and have polarity

617
00:29:46,539 --> 00:29:44,899
positive negative charge yeah it's more

618
00:29:50,490 --> 00:29:46,549
complicated than that but I think

619
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:50,500
Maxwell is a good starting point by

620
00:29:57,369 --> 00:29:54,110
showing his poor past so the fluid

621
00:29:59,860 --> 00:29:57,379
medium the fluid heater a force acting

622
00:30:01,310 --> 00:29:59,870
on it creating a solid and a gaseous

623
00:30:03,890 --> 00:30:01,320
medium

624
00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:03,900
the slaps were only the fluid median the

625
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:06,630
ether and the gaseous medium because he

626
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:08,430
was only interested in electricity so

627
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:11,130
this gaseous medium was their cause of

628
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:13,650
electricity or because of electrical

629
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:17,870
effects I should say ah yes it's very

630
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:20,610
complicated to me I am you know but a

631
00:30:26,060 --> 00:30:23,310
simple stone or host here but your book

632
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,070
is so full of great diagrams that you

633
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:27,840
know really help me feel like I'm

634
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:30,330
grasping some of this stuff and it is

635
00:30:34,550 --> 00:30:32,580
just so difficult because of the box

636
00:30:37,820 --> 00:30:34,560
that we're in as you say in the book

637
00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:37,830
it's hard to really get blueprints of a

638
00:30:41,930 --> 00:30:39,480
room that you're locked inside of it's

639
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:41,940
hard to know something outside of what

640
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:43,620
you know and this paradigm is so

641
00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:46,050
pervasive and everybody is so damn sure

642
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:47,880
that there's nothing else to learn about

643
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:49,710
reality that it is hard to

644
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,620
reverse-engineer all this and it's

645
00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:54,480
important we really should start over

646
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:55,830
and and learn things the right way

647
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:57,570
because a lot of beautiful things can

648
00:31:04,290 --> 00:31:00,720
come out of the understanding right yes

649
00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:04,300
I think that's true we are locked in our

650
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:07,030
our understanding and you have to go

651
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:09,910
back to clear up all the mess that we've

652
00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:13,530
made you can see that

653
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:15,750
I think you can divide modern science

654
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:18,510
into three groups the the real

655
00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:20,789
scientists quote-unquote real scientists

656
00:31:28,810 --> 00:31:24,059
who know that they don't know anything

657
00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:28,820
but they're trying to explore reality

658
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:30,470
those are the professors that also

659
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:33,260
taught me at university day they tell

660
00:31:37,780 --> 00:31:35,090
you they know how to predict the outcome

661
00:31:40,570 --> 00:31:37,790
of experiment but they don't know the

662
00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:40,580
mechanisms that are at work in these

663
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:44,750
experiments so there is one class of

664
00:31:49,390 --> 00:31:47,330
science then you have popular science

665
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:49,400
popular science says that we know

666
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:52,130
everything we know exactly how

667
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:54,710
everything works we know about neutron

668
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:57,170
stars we know black holes we know that

669
00:32:03,560 --> 00:31:58,970
the spacious curve you know there's a

670
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:03,570
black of dark matter and all this stuff

671
00:32:08,779 --> 00:32:06,210
while the real product of real science

672
00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:08,789
is to say yeah we think there must be

673
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:11,220
something like dark matter we don't know

674
00:32:14,539 --> 00:32:13,320
what it is but to complete our

675
00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:14,549
understanding that must be something

676
00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:18,299
more and then you have what I'll call

677
00:32:24,739 --> 00:32:22,460
fantasy science that is people who

678
00:32:27,859 --> 00:32:24,749
understand there is something wrong with

679
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:27,869
the other side and they try to explain

680
00:32:34,299 --> 00:32:30,710
it in their own way they try to make up

681
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:34,309
some science that is based on

682
00:32:39,529 --> 00:32:37,710
misunderstanding and concede now you

683
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:39,539
think that this fantasy science is

684
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:41,610
something completely

685
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:44,190
separate from the other ones but in

686
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:47,310
reality the real science contains a lot

687
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:51,510
of fantasy science because most of these

688
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:53,640
people they actually believe that the

689
00:32:59,710 --> 00:32:56,550
Sun is a nuclear bomb that is exploding

690
00:33:03,590 --> 00:32:59,720
over a period of billions of years and

691
00:33:04,430 --> 00:33:03,600
all this other things that are obviously

692
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:04,440
not true

693
00:33:10,930 --> 00:33:07,770
for example that also the earth has a

694
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:10,940
inner core made of iron and nickel

695
00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:14,370
let's also utter nonsense that is easily

696
00:33:19,910 --> 00:33:17,160
dispelled and especially if you look at

697
00:33:21,879 --> 00:33:19,920
the reasoning behind it it is completely

698
00:33:25,210 --> 00:33:21,889
absurd

699
00:33:27,070 --> 00:33:25,220
if you wanted to go into that yes I love

700
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:27,080
talking about the earth and I'm sure a

701
00:33:31,479 --> 00:33:28,610
lot of people would be like oh that's

702
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:31,489
absurd and easy to disprove that it has

703
00:33:38,409 --> 00:33:34,369
an iron core sure let us know schools on

704
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:38,419
the circuit if you look at the reasoning

705
00:33:45,729 --> 00:33:42,110
behind this why people believe that the

706
00:33:47,729 --> 00:33:45,739
earth as in iron and nickel core then it

707
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:47,739
is because iron and nickel are the only

708
00:33:54,009 --> 00:33:50,809
elements that they knew before that are

709
00:33:57,700 --> 00:33:54,019
ferromagnetic and we know that the earth

710
00:33:59,529 --> 00:33:57,710
creates a magnetic field so there must

711
00:34:02,169 --> 00:33:59,539
be something magnetic inside of the

712
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,179
earth now this is completely absurd

713
00:34:06,580 --> 00:34:04,399
because we also know that inside the

714
00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:06,590
earth the temperatures are very high and

715
00:34:13,130 --> 00:34:10,200
at its high temperatures

716
00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:13,140
these elements iron and nickel do not

717
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:16,700
have any magnetic properties anymore so

718
00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:20,580
that avoids the whole reasoning the

719
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:25,120
other reason is even more absurd

720
00:34:33,790 --> 00:34:31,330
we look what is in them and we find that

721
00:34:36,850 --> 00:34:33,800
they often contain high amounts of iron

722
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:36,860
and nickel so that is the reason why we

723
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:39,169
assume that the dirt poor must also be

724
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:42,800
iron and nickel so this does not make

725
00:34:50,740 --> 00:34:47,330
any sense at all so if you look at this

726
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:50,750
reasoning then I think it might as well

727
00:35:00,290 --> 00:34:55,490
say that the first pass or gold pour or

728
00:35:02,180 --> 00:35:00,300
it has a platinum or it is equally

729
00:35:05,650 --> 00:35:02,190
absurd

730
00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:05,660
there is no real reason why we assume it

731
00:35:10,340 --> 00:35:09,780
hmm so with the understanding that you

732
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:10,350
have

733
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:13,050
what would you hypothesize is in the

734
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:15,060
middle some type of inner son or inner

735
00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:24,640
in a way yes in a way

736
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:28,570
if you look for element again then you

737
00:35:36,610 --> 00:35:32,030
can project these on our solar system

738
00:35:38,860 --> 00:35:36,620
and you see then that the Sun is made

739
00:35:42,130 --> 00:35:38,870
this department fire the moon would be

740
00:35:46,030 --> 00:35:42,140
the element water the add atmosphere and

741
00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:46,040
blow the Stars everything would be air

742
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:50,500
and then the earth will be the receiving

743
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,050
Alamut earth Crispo earth now the energy

744
00:36:03,030 --> 00:35:59,680
goes from this comes from the zone but

745
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:03,040
gets received in the earth heating up

746
00:36:08,130 --> 00:36:05,290
the inside of the earth which is also

747
00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:08,140
known and it's interesting to see that

748
00:36:14,910 --> 00:36:11,380
Tesla also says it

749
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:14,920
he says that the Sun is an electrically

750
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:19,680
charged object it's at a potential of

751
00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:24,550
215 or 216 billion fold and so it wants

752
00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:28,100
to discharge from of death electricity

753
00:36:34,890 --> 00:36:31,460
and it cannot do that because it's email

754
00:36:38,410 --> 00:36:34,900
ineffective so what happens then is that

755
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:38,420
myths particles charged particles in the

756
00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:41,630
form of primary cosmic rays and these

757
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:45,820
particles called through near-earth and

758
00:36:51,289 --> 00:36:48,770
in passing through the earth if they eat

759
00:36:55,969 --> 00:36:51,299
up the inside of the earth

760
00:36:58,489 --> 00:36:55,979
now that is not met immediately with our

761
00:37:02,449 --> 00:36:58,499
modern understanding because now modern

762
00:37:04,579 --> 00:37:02,459
fuels we say no there are nuclear

763
00:37:08,989 --> 00:37:04,589
processes happening inside the earth

764
00:37:12,739 --> 00:37:08,999
which eat up the earth but in the stars

765
00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:12,749
understanding these primary rates they

766
00:37:21,499 --> 00:37:18,179
cause radioactive decay so in passing to

767
00:37:24,229 --> 00:37:21,509
the earth they caused this radioactive

768
00:37:28,969 --> 00:37:24,239
decay and heat of the earth so these two

769
00:37:32,989 --> 00:37:28,979
fuse actually match and so the inside of

770
00:37:36,649 --> 00:37:32,999
the earth receives the energy from the

771
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:36,659
Sun hmm so it's like a like a womb of

772
00:37:43,609 --> 00:37:40,469
sorts yes that's pretty interesting yeah

773
00:37:46,459 --> 00:37:43,619
I never hear described that way so I

774
00:37:49,009 --> 00:37:46,469
don't know if anything is being born out

775
00:37:51,019 --> 00:37:49,019
of that I guess except everything on the

776
00:37:52,399 --> 00:37:51,029
planet you know you could say that you

777
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:52,409
know that's why we call it Mother Earth

778
00:37:56,929 --> 00:37:53,849
I mean I think there's probably

779
00:38:00,379 --> 00:37:56,939
something to that yes yeah that's

780
00:38:05,689 --> 00:38:00,389
probably that but I have not explored

781
00:38:07,969 --> 00:38:05,699
that I need further I'm afraid hmm well

782
00:38:10,219 --> 00:38:07,979
this might be a good place to bring up

783
00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:10,229
another book of yours one that I was

784
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:12,029
really really interested in but didn't

785
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:13,529
get time to read before this interview

786
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:17,249
but that is the battle for Wardenclyffe

787
00:38:22,429 --> 00:38:19,649
a story in letters yeah because you took

788
00:38:25,189 --> 00:38:22,439
the actual correspondence between Tesla

789
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:25,199
and JP Morgan and reproduce them which

790
00:38:30,109 --> 00:38:28,049
is just such a service to the world what

791
00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:30,119
would you say that you learned in that

792
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:31,859
process there are a lot of assumptions

793
00:38:37,579 --> 00:38:34,649
and speculation but did anything you

794
00:38:39,739 --> 00:38:37,589
found contradict that general story that

795
00:38:43,159 --> 00:38:39,749
Tesla wanted to use that tower to

796
00:38:45,709 --> 00:38:43,169
provide power or communications to the

797
00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:45,719
whole world and JP Morgan shut it down

798
00:38:49,879 --> 00:38:47,669
and suppressed it I mean it seems like

799
00:38:53,059 --> 00:38:49,889
that is the general gist and it seems to

800
00:38:55,939 --> 00:38:53,069
be validated by these letters yes I

801
00:39:00,379 --> 00:38:55,949
think that is validated largely by these

802
00:39:03,259 --> 00:39:00,389
letters but what he do not see in these

803
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:03,269
letters is that Tesla wanted to generate

804
00:39:09,290 --> 00:39:05,220
electricity in this war

805
00:39:12,859 --> 00:39:09,300
the power Iike this part very secret

806
00:39:16,820 --> 00:39:12,869
because I think you understood that that

807
00:39:18,980 --> 00:39:16,830
would take away the reason for investors

808
00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:18,990
to invest in this project especially

809
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:23,430
projecting more than who had invested

810
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:26,910
largely in other sources of electrical

811
00:39:32,290 --> 00:39:29,760
power and also the distribution of power

812
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:32,300
so

813
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:35,210
if wouldn't've power if it would replace

814
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:38,450
the existing distribution system then

815
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:42,130
that would also for it is fine and Sears

816
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:44,690
Network for electrical power

817
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:48,170
distribution right on and for people who

818
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:50,450
have maybe seen the picture or who

819
00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:53,920
understand of course providing power or

820
00:39:58,740 --> 00:39:56,390
communications wirelessly obviously we

821
00:40:01,180 --> 00:39:58,750
kind of get a gist of that but if

822
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:01,190
Tesla's goals with the Wardenclyffe

823
00:40:07,150 --> 00:40:03,650
tower were fully realized and there was

824
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:07,160
no interference and we had his fully

825
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:10,460
researched top-of-the-line model in use

826
00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:13,910
how would that change the way we get

827
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:16,040
energy how would that change the life of

828
00:40:20,830 --> 00:40:19,550
the average person I think it would

829
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:20,840
change it quite a matically

830
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:24,800
because well you can do away with all

831
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:27,350
these electrical this the whole

832
00:40:34,540 --> 00:40:30,320
electrical grid everywhere if you wanted

833
00:40:37,420 --> 00:40:34,550
to because with very small set of coils

834
00:40:41,829 --> 00:40:37,430
you can devise power at any place around

835
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:41,839
the globe so that alone

836
00:40:49,289 --> 00:40:46,480
we'll change the world dramatically

837
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:49,299
I think apart from that we would also

838
00:40:54,839 --> 00:40:52,690
like to use it for communication and

839
00:40:57,210 --> 00:40:54,849
navigation purposes but for that we

840
00:41:00,359 --> 00:40:57,220
already have developed the internet and

841
00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:00,369
GPS system so that would not change

842
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:04,420
anything anymore but at this time the

843
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:08,410
resolution mm-hmm so yes we could get

844
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:10,660
rid of all the powerlines all the

845
00:41:17,069 --> 00:41:14,890
nasty-looking electric wires running up

846
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:17,079
to our house and all around the eaves of

847
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:19,210
our houses and all this stuff but when

848
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,000
it comes to how we would turn a light on

849
00:41:26,730 --> 00:41:24,640
or how we would access that power would

850
00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:26,740
we just have an antenna that receives

851
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:29,140
that signal from the tower on our home

852
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,450
and then everything comes from that or

853
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:33,520
how would the average person receive

854
00:41:42,329 --> 00:41:37,150
that power from the tower to powering

855
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:42,339
the devices in their home I think to get

856
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:44,079
enough power to generate an effort

857
00:41:49,699 --> 00:41:47,770
household you would need a large system

858
00:41:55,739 --> 00:41:49,709
so

859
00:41:59,819 --> 00:41:55,749
house or not I think if you can avoid

860
00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:59,829
that they would so in a community in a

861
00:42:05,039 --> 00:42:01,839
small village or so I think that would

862
00:42:07,049 --> 00:42:05,049
be one central plan to get this power

863
00:42:09,739 --> 00:42:07,059
and then distribute it to the houses I

864
00:42:13,499 --> 00:42:09,749
think that would be the most central

865
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:13,509
simple way to use that fair so yes not

866
00:42:17,879 --> 00:42:15,729
every house needs a receiver just every

867
00:42:20,009 --> 00:42:17,889
community every neighborhood might need

868
00:42:23,060 --> 00:42:20,019
one and then would the energy just go

869
00:42:26,210 --> 00:42:23,070
from there through the ground

870
00:42:28,010 --> 00:42:26,220
no no then you just have the electrical

871
00:42:30,860 --> 00:42:28,020
wires because if you send it again

872
00:42:33,740 --> 00:42:30,870
through the crown then you need this

873
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:33,750
similar system to receive the power

874
00:42:39,830 --> 00:42:37,770
again so that doesn't help gadget so we

875
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:39,840
need the wires from the station from the

876
00:42:45,830 --> 00:42:43,710
receiver to the home yes unless you have

877
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:45,840
only a small you need only a very small

878
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:48,930
amount of energy to search your mobile

879
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:51,630
phone then you could play some coils in

880
00:42:56,810 --> 00:42:54,480
your phone and receive it hmm yeah

881
00:42:59,470 --> 00:42:56,820
gotcha so anything that you could put a

882
00:43:02,840 --> 00:42:59,480
coil directly in would just be powered

883
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:02,850
yes see there's the trick of course

884
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:05,190
we're always we're always scrambling

885
00:43:09,740 --> 00:43:07,050
back to that outlet trying to get some

886
00:43:12,890 --> 00:43:09,750
juice you know and that and so this

887
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:12,900
would be quite paradigm change yes and

888
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:15,420
also like for example LED lights they

889
00:43:20,589 --> 00:43:18,150
use only very small amount of power so

890
00:43:24,909 --> 00:43:20,599
you can also wire them

891
00:43:26,259 --> 00:43:24,919
like them wirelessly hmm yes you have to

892
00:43:28,929 --> 00:43:26,269
find a way to switch them on and off

893
00:43:31,329 --> 00:43:28,939
that's the only thing and it would be

894
00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:31,339
the same distribution that you could

895
00:43:38,709 --> 00:43:34,819
also use to get communications around

896
00:43:41,169 --> 00:43:38,719
the world yes right that's really

897
00:43:43,299 --> 00:43:41,179
interesting it's the same thing but you

898
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:43,309
already have this way to the earth and

899
00:43:51,459 --> 00:43:47,839
you can modulate new waves on this

900
00:43:54,849 --> 00:43:51,469
larger wave the larger wave is the power

901
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:54,859
the energy and on that to modulate

902
00:44:03,179 --> 00:43:58,130
smaller waves which can be communication

903
00:44:06,549 --> 00:44:03,189
messages what happened by the way I

904
00:44:10,179 --> 00:44:06,559
understood from someone else that this

905
00:44:14,859 --> 00:44:10,189
system of distribution is not very clear

906
00:44:17,559 --> 00:44:14,869
even if you read my book I try to

907
00:44:21,819 --> 00:44:17,569
explain it in a clear manner but who

908
00:44:23,650 --> 00:44:21,829
doesn't get through too much because we

909
00:44:27,729 --> 00:44:23,660
grow up in a different paradigm

910
00:44:30,740 --> 00:44:27,739
you cannot immediately cross this issue

911
00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:30,750
but I think

912
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:33,119
we sent to the earth consists of two

913
00:44:38,359 --> 00:44:36,090
parts one is a wave pressure wave from

914
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:38,369
the children away in the medium in

915
00:44:45,890 --> 00:44:42,150
electricity so this medium this

916
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:45,900
electricity is not a charge this is what

917
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:49,890
causes charge so it is a gaseous medium

918
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:52,830
that is held inside the earth and

919
00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:56,550
slightly around it and you create a

920
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,580
standing longitudinal wave in this

921
00:45:04,780 --> 00:45:02,000
medium but it does not have any

922
00:45:08,839 --> 00:45:04,790
electrical or magnetic effect in itself

923
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:08,849
it's only a way in the medium that

924
00:45:14,359 --> 00:45:12,330
causes elected that so after you have

925
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:14,369
this way if you can create electrical

926
00:45:23,049 --> 00:45:19,609
cuts in it and those get amplified and

927
00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:23,059
the quality opposite of amplified in

928
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:27,769
this way so you sent electromagnetic

929
00:45:34,809 --> 00:45:30,170
signals through this medium and this

930
00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:34,819
medium is also in a way it's a bit

931
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:38,900
difficult to visualize I think it can do

932
00:45:43,749 --> 00:45:41,450
it but you know obviously you give all

933
00:45:46,509 --> 00:45:43,759
this context in the book and then you

934
00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:46,519
describe the very technical experiments

935
00:45:50,469 --> 00:45:48,109
that you've carried out to try and

936
00:45:53,259 --> 00:45:50,479
follow along with what Tesla was doing

937
00:45:55,569 --> 00:45:53,269
it is a fascinating journey but it is a

938
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:55,579
bit complex and the diagrams and photos

939
00:46:00,940 --> 00:45:58,400
you provide are things we can't show

940
00:46:04,089 --> 00:46:00,950
people here but obviously you've

941
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:04,099
verified a lot of this foundational

942
00:46:09,549 --> 00:46:05,569
stuff I guess how would you describe

943
00:46:12,510 --> 00:46:09,559
your progress or the state of what

944
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:12,520
you've been able to achieve thus far

945
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:14,530
there are few things that we first

946
00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:16,450
successfully verified I think the one

947
00:46:25,020 --> 00:46:21,580
over this is the 11.7 birds wave that

948
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:25,030
you can create in the earth that many

949
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:27,730
people just [\h__\h] to say you cannot

950
00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:29,530
have an electrical wave in near earth

951
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:33,880
because it would diminish very rapidly

952
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,119
and you cannot reach the other end of

953
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:40,000
Europe that is because they don't

954
00:46:45,329 --> 00:46:41,440
understand what I was doing

955
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:45,339
he was creating as I said before a wave

956
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:48,160
in the medium that causes electric the

957
00:46:54,510 --> 00:46:49,810
facts not

958
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:54,520
in electricity as we know it so this way

959
00:47:01,500 --> 00:46:57,700
I could reproduce and I can show that

960
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:01,510
this wave of the 11.7 work that is the

961
00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:06,130
gist another much more important

962
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:09,460
conclusion that I've been able to verify

963
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:12,490
is that in an electrical discharge at

964
00:47:18,990 --> 00:47:15,280
sufficiently high voltage

965
00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:19,000
you have more electric charge coming out

966
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:21,640
of the discharge then went in to the

967
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:26,370
discharge and that way you can tap an

968
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:30,160
energy source the same energy source

969
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:33,370
actually does supply sanity to lightning

970
00:47:40,050 --> 00:47:36,250
that we see in nature

971
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:40,060
yes that last part is probably the most

972
00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:44,470
fascinating and is that related to what

973
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:46,480
you talk about in the book as Tesla's

974
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:49,330
self acting engine is it tapping this

975
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:51,250
same energy source you're talking about

976
00:48:02,319 --> 00:47:58,799
that's the self-acting engine that is

977
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:02,329
the magnifying transmitter but to start

978
00:48:08,799 --> 00:48:05,240
this process is magnetron transmitter so

979
00:48:12,190 --> 00:48:08,809
what it does is you start it up first

980
00:48:14,020 --> 00:48:12,200
with conventional energy and then you

981
00:48:17,770 --> 00:48:14,030
create a very high voltage this voltage

982
00:48:21,250 --> 00:48:17,780
spark who were receiving circuit and we

983
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:21,260
sent that power into the earth higher

984
00:48:26,849 --> 00:48:24,800
frequency so this pulse travels to the

985
00:48:29,380 --> 00:48:26,859
other side of the earth comes back and

986
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:29,390
feeds back into your secondary coil

987
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:32,610
again so it's reused

988
00:48:39,350 --> 00:48:36,480
in the system so at some point you have

989
00:48:42,260 --> 00:48:39,360
enough energy coming back to keep the

990
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:42,270
system alive so then you have a self

991
00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:44,910
acting engine which of course modern

992
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:46,740
science would say oh that's perpetual

993
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:50,940
motion that cannot exist but in a strict

994
00:48:57,610 --> 00:48:53,460
way it's not perpetual motion because it

995
00:49:01,000 --> 00:48:57,620
draws energy from the environment so

996
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:01,010
it's allowed by their laws of physics

997
00:49:08,090 --> 00:49:04,050
mm-hmm yes I thought that was super

998
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,100
fascinating you talked about cooling a

999
00:49:12,290 --> 00:49:09,920
portion of the atmosphere and then

1000
00:49:14,750 --> 00:49:12,300
collecting heat in the form of

1001
00:49:16,580 --> 00:49:14,760
electrical potential you use this to

1002
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,590
strike the earth at regular intervals

1003
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:18,480
creating a standing wave of the Earth's

1004
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:21,210
electricity and then on this wave you

1005
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:23,790
modulate a high-frequency signal that

1006
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:26,010
can be picked up by receivers all around

1007
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:28,170
the world basically because it's in the

1008
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:31,410
atmosphere and also by our magnifying

1009
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,690
transmitter and that would be used to

1010
00:49:38,620 --> 00:49:36,000
keep it going you basically use its own

1011
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:38,630
energy to power its you know it's

1012
00:49:44,890 --> 00:49:42,630
feedback loop it's working except the

1013
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:44,900
you draw power from the atmosphere and

1014
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:48,270
that with that power your people going

1015
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:51,450
and you draw enough power from the

1016
00:49:58,370 --> 00:49:54,890
atmosphere to send some power to other

1017
00:50:01,060 --> 00:49:58,380
receivers as well yeah it's amazing and

1018
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:01,070
I wanted to revisit what you said about

1019
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:05,520
the fantasy science it seems like when

1020
00:50:10,910 --> 00:50:07,170
you're talking about that you know there

1021
00:50:13,550 --> 00:50:10,920
are people that create these call them

1022
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:13,560
free energy devices and you talk about

1023
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:16,110
them in the book as you're going through

1024
00:50:21,020 --> 00:50:18,510
this methodically trying to follow

1025
00:50:22,370 --> 00:50:21,030
Tesla's work and build up to something

1026
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:22,380
like that but there are people who have

1027
00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:23,970
created it and then they don't

1028
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:26,520
necessarily know why it works it does

1029
00:50:30,140 --> 00:50:27,930
work I mean you're not saying it doesn't

1030
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,150
work but then they come up with a theory

1031
00:50:34,730 --> 00:50:32,400
or they come up with new terms to

1032
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:34,740
describe what's happening and that's why

1033
00:50:38,990 --> 00:50:36,690
nothing really progresses because

1034
00:50:41,330 --> 00:50:39,000
everyone gets confused on these

1035
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,340
compartmentalized terms there's no unity

1036
00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:43,200
to any of this and if you were to start

1037
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:45,420
with the principles and work

1038
00:50:50,030 --> 00:50:48,480
up that way you know we could maybe all

1039
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:50,040
get on the same page and it would be

1040
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:53,310
easier to to actually talk about this

1041
00:50:57,079 --> 00:50:54,630
stuff

1042
00:50:59,690 --> 00:50:57,089
yes the dead stay principle you just

1043
00:51:01,880 --> 00:50:59,700
explained it perfectly in the way that

1044
00:51:05,989 --> 00:51:01,890
he cool a portion of the median and you

1045
00:51:09,289 --> 00:51:05,999
draw in that way power from the median

1046
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:09,299
because the median supplies eat and eat

1047
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:12,420
in the medium eating electricity is

1048
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:16,559
equivalent to electrical charge I show

1049
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:18,569
that in the book but maybe that's a

1050
00:51:24,289 --> 00:51:20,099
little bit too complicated according to

1051
00:51:27,739 --> 00:51:24,299
now but these other systems be compared

1052
00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:27,749
and I think and someone else does that

1053
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:37,029
so you slowly build up charge you slowly

1054
00:51:42,459 --> 00:51:40,249
build up electric potential and this

1055
00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:42,469
pressure electric pressure and you

1056
00:51:49,569 --> 00:51:46,609
suddenly release that pressure thereby

1057
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:49,579
you cool the medium because that's what

1058
00:51:56,229 --> 00:51:52,880
happens an air condition for example to

1059
00:51:58,299 --> 00:51:56,239
you you pressurize it and then you

1060
00:52:01,839 --> 00:51:58,309
pressurize the gas outside your house

1061
00:52:03,370 --> 00:52:01,849
and then it comes down to normal

1062
00:52:05,289 --> 00:52:03,380
temperature and then you let it inside

1063
00:52:08,370 --> 00:52:05,299
the house you decompress it and by

1064
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:08,380
decompressing it you

1065
00:52:14,489 --> 00:52:10,930
absorb energy heat energy from inside

1066
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:14,499
the house so you cool the house the same

1067
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:17,369
thing happens in the SystemVue

1068
00:52:24,269 --> 00:52:20,640
compressed electricity so thereby

1069
00:52:27,989 --> 00:52:24,279
creating a high potential that you do

1070
00:52:30,749 --> 00:52:27,999
this slowly so you don't disturb the

1071
00:52:34,349 --> 00:52:30,759
heat environment then you suddenly

1072
00:52:37,019 --> 00:52:34,359
release this pressure and then you cool

1073
00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:37,029
this electricity and by cooling this

1074
00:52:44,729 --> 00:52:40,470
electricity you absorb it in the form of

1075
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:44,739
electrical energy and this gets used in

1076
00:52:50,729 --> 00:52:47,920
these systems it's the same system you

1077
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,739
see in these small systems that from the

1078
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:53,579
autonomous the other people make and

1079
00:52:57,710 --> 00:52:56,650
it's the same that Tesla uses in its

1080
00:53:01,620 --> 00:52:57,720
water tower

1081
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:01,630
hmm yes I think that's a great way to

1082
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:03,960
summarize it and this idea that

1083
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:07,359
lightning is kind of a clue it sort of

1084
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,089
speaks to the intelligence of the

1085
00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:11,920
universe or something that it would show

1086
00:53:15,779 --> 00:53:13,839
you lightning and be like get you to

1087
00:53:17,729 --> 00:53:15,789
think huh what's up what's doing that

1088
00:53:19,410 --> 00:53:17,739
you know what how could I use this

1089
00:53:21,950 --> 00:53:19,420
because there's bright minds like viktor

1090
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:21,960
schauberger who have looked to nature

1091
00:53:28,019 --> 00:53:25,930
and mechanisms of trout swimming

1092
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,029
upstream and certain things like this to

1093
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:29,920
then derive technologies from

1094
00:53:35,249 --> 00:53:32,950
rather than just smash in and blowing

1095
00:53:39,930 --> 00:53:35,259
everything up the way our conventional

1096
00:53:42,569 --> 00:53:39,940
system does well this has been just

1097
00:53:44,219 --> 00:53:42,579
super fascinating and really informative

1098
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:44,229
I actually can't wait to get it out

1099
00:53:48,749 --> 00:53:46,569
there to the people but we should take

1100
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:48,759
some time to tell them about your goals

1101
00:53:54,779 --> 00:53:50,950
going forward and how they can support

1102
00:53:57,299 --> 00:53:54,789
you I think it's a really ingenious idea

1103
00:53:59,609 --> 00:53:57,309
but you offer up seven possible

1104
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:59,619
directions for the work to go and you

1105
00:54:04,289 --> 00:54:01,599
say that anyone who donates should just

1106
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:04,299
use the last digit of their donation

1107
00:54:09,089 --> 00:54:06,849
amount to denote which option they'd

1108
00:54:11,309 --> 00:54:09,099
like to support for example if I wanted

1109
00:54:14,370 --> 00:54:11,319
to donate towards anti-gravity quirk

1110
00:54:16,109 --> 00:54:14,380
which is option six I might donate 100

1111
00:54:17,910 --> 00:54:16,119
dollars and six cents

1112
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:17,920
I think that's clever

1113
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:21,570
yeah also too I think that also

1114
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:24,490
encourages people to to actually donate

1115
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:26,470
something because they want to know

1116
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:29,290
something more I will look into it if

1117
00:54:36,170 --> 00:54:31,270
you tell me what you want me to research

1118
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:36,180
more right so you in order you have

1119
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:38,410
rebuilding the Colorado Springs

1120
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:41,320
Experimental Station researching

1121
00:54:47,210 --> 00:54:44,160
worldwide wireless transmission

1122
00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:47,220
researching single wire transmission

1123
00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:49,990
rebuilding a full-sized magnifying

1124
00:54:55,860 --> 00:54:53,260
transmitter researching down scaling

1125
00:54:57,860 --> 00:54:55,870
Tesla's energy source which would be

1126
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:57,870
those gravity waves we talked about

1127
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:00,880
anti-gravity and then fundamental

1128
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:03,910
research into the nature of things well

1129
00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:06,730
those are the seven options which one's

1130
00:55:14,070 --> 00:55:11,500
winning I mean so far nothing is winning

1131
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,080
it I've sold 15 copies of the book I

1132
00:55:20,859 --> 00:55:16,960
think basically I haven't looked

1133
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,869
recently but not so so many books here

1134
00:55:27,789 --> 00:55:23,119
so yeah I think people are still chewing

1135
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:27,799
on it and I've not got any response

1136
00:55:34,059 --> 00:55:31,369
let's hope yeah well we're gonna blow it

1137
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,069
up here we're blowin up I had one person

1138
00:55:39,069 --> 00:55:36,079
that I am you negating with and he

1139
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:39,079
pointed me out some troubles that he had

1140
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,369
interpreting the book so maybe there

1141
00:55:50,049 --> 00:55:45,920
will be a next book in which I can

1142
00:55:52,029 --> 00:55:50,059
explain in more detail what his problems

1143
00:55:56,019 --> 00:55:52,039
are so more people can understand what's

1144
00:55:58,299 --> 00:55:56,029
going on more detail man I feel like I

1145
00:56:00,130 --> 00:55:58,309
was drowning in detail in this book it's

1146
00:56:02,769 --> 00:56:00,140
I mean in a good way you know

1147
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,779
it's really impressive the way you show

1148
00:56:08,999 --> 00:56:05,440
these graphs and then you actually have

1149
00:56:12,219 --> 00:56:09,009
photographs of you doing the actual

1150
00:56:14,769 --> 00:56:12,229
experiments and the you know arc

1151
00:56:17,499 --> 00:56:14,779
discharges that are coming off of the

1152
00:56:20,469 --> 00:56:17,509
devices that you're running and it's

1153
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,479
already impressive but it's very

1154
00:56:26,289 --> 00:56:22,880
difficult as I said to explain what's

1155
00:56:29,049 --> 00:56:26,299
happening in the terms that I want to

1156
00:56:31,539 --> 00:56:29,059
explain it because people are still in

1157
00:56:33,729 --> 00:56:31,549
this modern mindset it is more modern

1158
00:56:39,219 --> 00:56:33,739
paradigm it's very difficult

1159
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:39,229
I found the essence across right

1160
00:56:44,009 --> 00:56:41,690
I think what's difficult for the layman

1161
00:56:46,859 --> 00:56:44,019
to understand is what are the true

1162
00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:46,869
implications what are the practical

1163
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:50,960
applications of this work I mean I just

1164
00:56:55,809 --> 00:56:53,440
read those seven options and outside of

1165
00:56:58,209 --> 00:56:55,819
anti-gravity crafts which is pretty

1166
00:56:59,920 --> 00:56:58,219
clear a lot of people might wonder well

1167
00:57:02,549 --> 00:56:59,930
which one of these would impact my life

1168
00:57:05,950 --> 00:57:02,559
the most I don't even know what I want

1169
00:57:08,769 --> 00:57:05,960
yeah I don't know that's why I'm asking

1170
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:08,779
that people I think we have to look

1171
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:10,880
deeper into Tesla's work because there's

1172
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:14,210
still so much that is not utilized and

1173
00:57:19,180 --> 00:57:16,910
we have to come to a point where it is

1174
00:57:22,599 --> 00:57:19,190
utilized where we use this new energy

1175
00:57:25,450 --> 00:57:22,609
source for example we have to use it so

1176
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:25,460
how do you want me to proceed and give

1177
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:27,650
me the means to proceed because I'm

1178
00:57:32,190 --> 00:57:30,529
pretty much run out of funds at the

1179
00:57:34,620 --> 00:57:32,200
moment

1180
00:57:37,260 --> 00:57:34,630
and that is also why I wrote these four

1181
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:37,270
books these four books helped me to fund

1182
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:42,160
my research in the future hmm so if I

1183
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:45,910
was just to ask you between rebuilding

1184
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:48,040
the Colorado Springs experimental

1185
00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:51,390
station or rebuilding a full-sized

1186
00:57:58,319 --> 00:57:55,720
magnifying transmitter which of those do

1187
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:58,329
you think would yield the most bang for

1188
00:58:02,730 --> 00:57:59,170
the buck

1189
00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:02,740
I think the option pool would be better

1190
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:05,260
the full-size magnifying transmitter but

1191
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,690
it would imply also more experiments on

1192
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:12,480
a smaller scale first

1193
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:16,690
as I said before we have to know we have

1194
00:58:21,089 --> 00:58:18,910
to at least have some idea of what the

1195
00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:21,099
consequences are if we change the elect

1196
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:26,140
status of the earth so we have to do

1197
00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:27,970
some more research on a smaller scale

1198
00:58:32,609 --> 00:58:30,070
first and then we can scale it up to the

1199
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,619
magnifying transmitter it's actually the

1200
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:34,960
same thing that Tesla did he first went

1201
00:58:40,109 --> 00:58:37,150
to Colorado Springs to this this

1202
00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:40,119
principles are and then he came and said

1203
00:58:46,020 --> 00:58:41,920
now I have it I want to build a

1204
00:58:47,849 --> 00:58:46,030
full-scale magnifying the paper hmm it

1205
00:58:50,579 --> 00:58:47,859
would be great to see and I guess I

1206
00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:50,589
would also ask you why move to seclusion

1207
00:58:55,170 --> 00:58:52,900
and Thailand where really it just seems

1208
00:58:58,319 --> 00:58:55,180
like you're further away from resources

1209
00:59:01,140 --> 00:58:58,329
or materials or potential partners that

1210
00:59:03,690 --> 00:59:01,150
might make this work easier yes but

1211
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:03,700
you're also between the rice field

1212
00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:05,710
no one cares really about what I'm doing

1213
00:59:13,740 --> 00:59:10,060
here yeah if I were to build this lab in

1214
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:13,750
Holland it would be demolished but

1215
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:17,050
police and who knows what will come to

1216
00:59:21,359 --> 00:59:19,690
take it everything apart again before I

1217
00:59:25,470 --> 00:59:21,369
could do the thing from the first

1218
00:59:27,930 --> 00:59:25,480
experiment yeah I'm living between rice

1219
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:27,940
farmers who hear the noise and they

1220
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,650
think wow that is a loud noise and then

1221
00:59:33,809 --> 00:59:31,839
they go on and walk with a cow on the

1222
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:33,819
street and then they get to eat some

1223
00:59:41,050 --> 00:59:36,010
processors they don't care what I'm

1224
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:41,060
doing so yeah I can test their freedom

1225
00:59:47,020 --> 00:59:43,970
I like it I like it conjures up

1226
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:47,030
provocative imagery of what you might be

1227
00:59:53,530 --> 00:59:50,990
doing out there but that's cool I can

1228
00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:53,540
tell you it's very very loud when you

1229
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:58,430
have a spark at quarrel that takes 60

1230
01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:01,760
kilowatt it's like a machine gun going

1231
01:00:10,620 --> 01:00:06,350
off it's very loud is it dangerous to be

1232
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:10,630
near some of this stuff I still live

1233
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:12,970
yeah I wouldn't stand next to the coil

1234
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:16,720
because it may arc to you and you

1235
01:00:24,299 --> 01:00:19,890
probably will not tell the tale

1236
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:24,309
right right mmm well I guess is there

1237
01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:27,670
more to tell people about donating or

1238
01:00:32,620 --> 01:00:30,190
your future goals or anything else they

1239
01:00:36,190 --> 01:00:32,630
should know going forward

1240
01:00:38,290 --> 01:00:36,200
I think I summed it up in the last page

1241
01:00:42,460 --> 01:00:38,300
of the science of this last magic

1242
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:42,470
if you skip to the last page last pages

1243
01:00:49,979 --> 01:00:46,809
I think is C 132

1244
01:00:52,169 --> 01:00:49,989
you see these options and you see the

1245
01:00:55,289 --> 01:00:52,179
ways in which you can support my project

1246
01:00:58,259 --> 01:00:55,299
is vital to cryptocurrencies

1247
01:01:03,029 --> 01:00:58,269
I give you my cryptocurrency addressed

1248
01:01:04,289 --> 01:01:03,039
or PayPal you can go to pay tell me /

1249
01:01:08,189 --> 01:01:04,299
paramdham

1250
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:08,199
that is my name er and STW i double-l ii

1251
01:01:13,330 --> 01:01:10,370
and

1252
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:13,340
there you can support me but also about

1253
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:15,170
buying the books that I wrote you

1254
01:01:23,790 --> 01:01:19,850
support me so body book I would say and

1255
01:01:27,420 --> 01:01:23,800
help me out that way

1256
01:01:29,250 --> 01:01:27,430
yes and I will include the links to as

1257
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:29,260
much of that as I can some of the

1258
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:31,210
cryptocurrency addresses are a little

1259
01:01:36,270 --> 01:01:33,430
more complicated I don't know if you can

1260
01:01:38,070 --> 01:01:36,280
just take a photo of a QR code and then

1261
01:01:41,370 --> 01:01:38,080
reproduce it and get it to show up

1262
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:41,380
accurately but I'll definitely do my

1263
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:43,240
best to make it easy for people to

1264
01:01:47,790 --> 01:01:45,370
follow up on this and of course the

1265
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:47,800
science of test is magic is the book and

1266
01:01:52,020 --> 01:01:49,210
will you be presenting it

1267
01:01:54,510 --> 01:01:52,030
Aran's next conference perhaps I don't

1268
01:01:57,090 --> 01:01:54,520
know yet at the moment I'm very short on

1269
01:02:00,540 --> 01:01:57,100
cash to travel to America is not an

1270
01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:00,550
option right now but it may be later who

1271
01:02:05,490 --> 01:02:03,070
knows who knows the future may be look

1272
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:05,500
very different hey well who can put a

1273
01:02:15,330 --> 01:02:13,410
well I'm just messing around but it is

1274
01:02:17,730 --> 01:02:15,340
really important work you're doing and I

1275
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:17,740
really value your time thanks for going

1276
01:02:23,180 --> 01:02:20,980
through the effort the logistical energy

1277
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:23,190
put forth to actually make this happen

1278
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:25,930
it's been a real pleasure thanks again

1279
01:02:31,290 --> 01:02:28,330
amazing work keep doing what you do and

1280
01:02:32,610 --> 01:02:31,300
stay safe out there well thanks for

1281
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:32,620
having me

1282
01:02:40,310 --> 01:02:37,770
hope you'll reach a new audience

1283
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:40,320
I think so I think so alright man well

1284
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:47,610
enjoy the morning there I guess this is

1285
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:51,330
the way higher side shatters this is the

1286
01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:54,570
way another look under the hood of ether

1287
01:03:00,680 --> 01:02:57,480
physics electricity and the suppressed

1288
01:03:04,370 --> 01:03:00,690
esoteric sciences I do hope you liked it

1289
01:03:07,490 --> 01:03:04,380
I know we got a little in the weeds with

1290
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:07,500
some of the science e material but truth

1291
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:09,570
be told it's those details and

1292
01:03:15,290 --> 01:03:12,090
explanations that we need to understand

1293
01:03:18,590 --> 01:03:15,300
to prove that this isn't sci-fi fantasy

1294
01:03:22,010 --> 01:03:18,600
stuff you know we can't just be vague

1295
01:03:25,490 --> 01:03:22,020
and hyperbolic we got to actually try to

1296
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:25,500
understand it and as much as I do it I

1297
01:03:29,870 --> 01:03:27,450
don't actually like kickin off these

1298
01:03:33,620 --> 01:03:29,880
wrap ups with responses to criticisms

1299
01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:33,630
but we're here now and I've had a decent

1300
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:35,640
amount of emails come in saying things

1301
01:03:39,980 --> 01:03:38,610
like I'm cancelling your show because it

1302
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:39,990
used to be a lot of fun

1303
01:03:45,170 --> 01:03:42,240
spider beans and mind-control beams from

1304
01:03:49,310 --> 01:03:45,180
Saturn and now it's just a science

1305
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:49,320
lesson or a health lesson and I get it I

1306
01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:53,610
do but I guess I'm trying to mature the

1307
01:03:58,940 --> 01:03:55,920
conspiracy culture a little bit if I

1308
01:04:03,110 --> 01:03:58,950
could be so bold and wild stuff will

1309
01:04:05,090 --> 01:04:03,120
always be in the higher side DNA as we

1310
01:04:07,490 --> 01:04:05,100
used to say we know they're lying to us

1311
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:07,500
we just don't know to what degree so

1312
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:10,590
we're gonna consider all degrees but if

1313
01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:13,530
we want to make progress in bringing

1314
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:16,200
ether physics or the electric universe

1315
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:21,210
or Tesla tech back from the cia's

1316
01:04:27,260 --> 01:04:25,230
basement and files of redacted documents

1317
01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:27,270
then we're gonna need to spend some time

1318
01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:30,540
with it real time I guess it comes down

1319
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:33,780
to what you're looking for is the higher

1320
01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:36,540
side Schatz just something provocative

1321
01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:38,820
to listen to why you stock shelves or

1322
01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:42,060
fight the traffic back home or are we

1323
01:04:48,500 --> 01:04:45,540
trying to rally the troops and have an

1324
01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:48,510
impact and change the world

1325
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:51,359
change the world what a cliche and lame

1326
01:04:58,250 --> 01:04:54,450
thing to say I understand but it is

1327
01:05:01,310 --> 01:04:58,260
actually a pretty big deal that we have

1328
01:05:04,670 --> 01:05:01,320
this show and it gets tens of thousands

1329
01:05:07,550 --> 01:05:04,680
of listeners and we go to this obscure

1330
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:07,560
corner of Thailand and we talked to a

1331
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:09,930
guy living in isolation between the rice

1332
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:12,089
fields working on the same suppressed

1333
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:13,440
science that gives us the understanding

1334
01:05:19,970 --> 01:05:17,210
of oh that's how electrogravitics works

1335
01:05:21,859 --> 01:05:19,980
that's how the elements interact and

1336
01:05:24,349 --> 01:05:21,869
reality filters down from consciousness

1337
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:24,359
rather than a random explosion in the

1338
01:05:30,530 --> 01:05:29,310
beginning of time now I see I'm just

1339
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:30,540
saying you got to go to some pretty

1340
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:33,359
obscure places to get this information

1341
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:36,720
from the people firsthand who are really

1342
01:05:41,750 --> 01:05:39,370
playing around with it

1343
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:41,760
and there's also something I like about

1344
01:05:49,530 --> 01:05:46,510
episodes that highlight guests who never

1345
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:49,540
asked for the spotlight he's not really

1346
01:05:55,740 --> 01:05:52,510
trying to be some famous talking head on

1347
01:05:58,860 --> 01:05:55,750
the alternative circuit he just wants to

1348
01:06:02,610 --> 01:05:58,870
raise funds for the work and he'll even

1349
01:06:06,030 --> 01:06:02,620
do the exact work you want I mean this

1350
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:06,040
is a golden opportunity to fund the

1351
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:08,950
creation of an electoral grow vidiq

1352
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:12,610
Flying Saucer now I can't say if this

1353
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:15,490
particular episode will have that impact

1354
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:18,970
or not but today the breadcrumbs were

1355
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:21,850
laid out for exactly that possibility

1356
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:23,470
right

1357
01:06:28,650 --> 01:06:25,810
I mean isn't it a little exciting to be

1358
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:28,660
just one degree away from these things

1359
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:30,670
that we talk about and a credible

1360
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:33,010
competent guy who can actually do the

1361
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:35,650
work even if it doesn't happen to me

1362
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:40,990
it's just really exciting and fun to be

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that close to it to even dream about the

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possibilities maybe one day we'll be

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more organized as a force I don't know

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outside of the science itself we're

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talking with someone who has thoroughly

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read all of tesla's available work notes

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and letters like everything so he can

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confirm some of those things that people

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claim without really explaining them I

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mean he laid it out there Tesla had a

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plan for a flying craft with no wings or

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01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:18,850
propellers fact bears beats Battlestar

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Galactica you get it

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so I hope you like the secret science

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shows much like the alternative health

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01:07:28,770 --> 01:07:26,859
shows there's something here and it

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needs to be brought out of the basement

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and that means we need to be adults

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about how we talk about it and actually

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put our brains to work to try to repair

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:41,070
the damage and actually understand it I

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hope you agree and I hope you feel that

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bit-by-bit

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a real case is being made that this is

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legit stuff and most of the guests on

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01:07:56,670 --> 01:07:54,940
this subject again don't really want to

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be here or I guess I should say today's

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guest plus guys like Eric Dollard they

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:02,380
don't ask me to come here they're not

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hucksters they're not snake oil salesmen

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trying to get some captive audience and

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I think that's an important distinction

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when trying to identify how much merit

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this stuff has and if you only heard the

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01:08:22,769 --> 01:08:20,589
first free hour you are missing out

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because in the second hour we got deeper

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into things like the clues and the

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clouds the perfect Phi ratio

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distribution of the planets in the solar

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system and what holds them in place it

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ain't gravity we talked about Tarot and

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connecting to higher consciousness with

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01:08:40,769 --> 01:08:39,850
playing cards why D wave isn't really

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anything special

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Tesla ether and the Flying Saucer the

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connection between magic and science and

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01:08:53,940 --> 01:08:50,080
the importance and meaning of the Dragon

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01:08:56,249 --> 01:08:53,950
in the Chinese zodiac you know just

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stuff you can pretty much get anywhere

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else if you don't want to be a plus

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01:09:04,289 --> 01:09:02,170
member I kid I kid but if you want the

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01:09:06,630 --> 01:09:04,299
real detailed science get the book the

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01:09:08,430 --> 01:09:06,640
science of Tesla's magic and if you want

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01:09:11,170 --> 01:09:08,440
to go the extra mile donate to the

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project of your choice

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and it sucks that you can't just listen

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to something right it's always thanks

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01:09:18,850 --> 01:09:16,700
for your time now we need your money

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01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:18,860
support the show support the guests by

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01:09:24,010 --> 01:09:21,290
the book I get it it's just the nature

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of the game and different shows are

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01:09:29,530 --> 01:09:26,180
going to speak to different people out

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01:09:31,390 --> 01:09:29,540
there that's alright but if we ever get

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big enough I do have dreams of being

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able to fund this stuff myself or

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01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:36,260
instead of the money bomb like we used

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to do I could say something like how

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much do you need to build us a flying

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01:09:45,970 --> 01:09:43,430
saucer 20,000 ok well I'll put up half

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and then we can collect half from the

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audience and getting $10,000 from a

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01:09:57,220 --> 01:09:53,530
hundred thousand people is no big deal

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01:09:59,800 --> 01:09:57,230
maybe a higher side GoFundMe section of

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:09:59,810
the website I don't know I guess I'm

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just saying that one day I hope we can

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mobilize this thing to take the talk to

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the next level of actually doing and

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then I can reveal the higher side saucer

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01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:14,660
and we won't have to wonder all in due

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01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:18,380
time I guess big dreams you know 2019

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was about consolidating the sites trying

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01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:23,050
to improve the system that we use and

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01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:26,510
build us out to be a bit more future

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01:10:30,340 --> 01:10:29,090
proof it wasn't smooth and we're still

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01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:30,350
trying to tie some things up but

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hopefully 2020 is where we really throw

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01:10:38,620 --> 01:10:35,600
some fuel on the THC fire and then

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01:10:40,660 --> 01:10:38,630
post-2020 we're funding the proof and

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01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:40,670
supplying the stuff that we want and

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:43,640
kicking it all up a notch and I don't

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01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:46,970
know we'll see but for now I am getting

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out of here big thanks to our guest

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01:10:52,690 --> 01:10:50,720
today big thanks to you for listening

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01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:52,700
check out the show notes for mr.

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01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:55,220
Vandenberg donation information and I'll

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catch you next time your movie so tarik

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science oppressors liars of our electric

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paradigm and moulders of the mainstream

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01:11:17,670 --> 01:11:12,370
woke up this morning with light in my

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:17,680
eyes and then realized it was done

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01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:24,590
ian was alive

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01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:36,100
you

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must be those strangers that come every

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:46,400
night hoes saucer-shaped alight but

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01:11:58,389 --> 01:11:53,330
people obtain the blue-green footprints

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01:12:01,060 --> 01:11:58,399
left glow-in-the-dark I

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they get home

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mr. spaceman won't you please take me

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along I won't do anything wrong hey mr.

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spaceman won't you please take me along

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01:12:41,740 --> 01:12:37,729
moved up this morning

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01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:41,750
feeling quite weird I had a slide

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:46,400
it's in my beer my tooth pain

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01:13:00,580 --> 01:12:57,000
written my name so long

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[Music]

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01:13:05,150 --> 01:13:08,680
mr. space

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01:13:16,090 --> 01:13:11,450
won't you please take me

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I won't do anything wrong

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01:13:23,169 --> 01:13:21,800
mr. space

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[Music]

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01:13:42,910 --> 01:13:36,939
mr. spaceman

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:42,920
won't you please take me alone won't do

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01:14:04,060 --> 01:13:55,370
anything won't you please take me along

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01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:04,070
the high side won't you please take me